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Machine Man (serial)
“Charlie?”
I opened my eyes. No, I didn’t. I had no eyes. I was simply, abruptly aware. And I saw Lola. She was watching me, her chin resting on the heel of one hand, her elbow on the bench top. Her hair looked as if she had pulled it into a neat pony-tail, then walked through a blizzard. She wore a white shirt with a grease stain on the collar. She was here.
“Hey, you.” She reached out and rested a hand on what felt like my head, but wasn’t. “There you are.”
Lola, I said. Oh Lola, it’s so good to see you. I don’t know what’s happened, and can you hear me? I can’t talk. Lola, I can see you but I can’t talk.
Her eyes shone. “You’re talking, Charlie. Here. Let me…” She swiveled my camera until I could see the monitor: I CANNOT TALK LOLA I CAN SEE YOU BUT I CANNOT TALK. “See? You’re talking. We’re talking, Charlie.”
AM I IN THERE IS MY BRAIN IN THERE
“No. Well… yes. But not your brain brain. You’re mostly solid state now.”
HOW AM I SOLID STATE
“I’ve been dying to tell you about it. It’s amazing. I mean, I have told you about it, a thousand times. But until now you couldn’t hear me.”
I AM A ROBOT, wrote the screen. I AM A BOX DEAD MACHINE BOX.
“No, Charlie. You’re not a box. The box is your body, that’s all.”
DO NOT WANT TO BE A BOX LOLA
She stroked my camera. I couldn’t feel it. But it was comforting anyway. “They took you away from me, Charlie. After we kissed, and my heart fried everything, the Better Future people tried to drag you away. They got you about ten feet, then they dropped you and tried to run away before the police got them. I could see you, Charlie, but I couldn’t reach you. The paramedics put me in an ambulance and I didn’t see you for ten days.” She straightened and unbuttoned her shirt. There was a white scar across her chest: thick, not new. “I made them give me the heart you made for me. I had to yell at some people. But I got it. I had to yell at a lot of people over the last three years, Charlie, because they kept wanting to give up on you.”
THREE YEARS HOW IS IT THREE YEARS
“It feels like three days, all of a sudden.” She leaned close, her face aglow. “So let me tell you about the box. Because I know this is a lot to take in, but seriously, you are going to love it. The box has ports.”
PORTS
“Yes. You can plug things into it.”
THINGS WHAT THINGS
“Well, that’s an interesting question, Charlie. It’s a question I guess you want to put some serious thought into yourself. But… well, while I’ve been waiting, I kind of went ahead and…” She grinned. “I was going to surprise you, but now I can’t wait. I’m just going to say it. I made you an arm. You can probably do better. Much better. But I wanted to give you something. Something in return. Something I made myself.”
YOU MADE ME AN ARM LOLA
“I’m kind of stupidly proud about it, Charlie. I mean, it can’t lift cars or anything. It’s just a prosthetic. But it’s a start.”
A START
“Yeah.” She lay her head on her arm, her free hand continuing to stroke my camera. It seemed a familiar position for her: she had done this before. “That’s what it is.”
It was odd, knowing I was seeing her through a camera lens. But not as odd as I would have thought. I wondered if perhaps people could adapt to anything. Now I thought about it, it was pretty strange that human beings felt comfortable walking around in bodies that were mostly made of juice. That was actually bizarre.
CAN YOU SHOW ME THE ARM, I said.





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Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
I hereby dedicate this page's comments to answering questions about stuff I didn't explain well enough in the story.
Location: newcastle
Quote: "I wish I were what I was when I wished I was what I am"
Posted: 6119 days ago
does Charlie become a cold lazarus?
Location: Moe
Quote: "Fredzfrog"
Posted: 6119 days ago
anyhoo.. story comments.. umm.. so ports.. usb or firewire? ooh! could be used to connect to a stove and cook bacon! hooray! :)
Location: Sydney
Quote: "vote with your wallet"
Posted: 6119 days ago
First, I want to give mad props for doing this for so long, one page a day, without missing any. Most people don't even brush their teeth with that kind of consistency. I won't say whether I am in that group or not.
The only thing that I thought warranted more explanation was Cassandra becoming acting CEO. That was a bit of a stretch for me.
Location: newcastle
Quote: "I wish I were what I was when I wished I was what I am"
Posted: 6119 days ago
secondly, what do I do now? how do I get my fix?
and is this a future for writing - one day at a time? Its kind of back to the future, but instead of people buying serials in papers (dickens, conan-doyle), they can subscribe and get it.
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
Wait, did that sound creepy?
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
I guess that's another blog! What Should Max Do Next?
Posted: 6119 days ago
Location: Blue Mountains
Posted: 6119 days ago
You mentioned rewriting into a novel - do you think much will change? More detail, less, fixing anything you agree with in the feedback? Major/minor?
Thank you!
Location: Leeds, UK.
Quote: "Trust Elizabeth to get upset over a donut."
Posted: 6119 days ago
I have loved the past weeks waiting each day for the next page... what will I do now?
Hope it makes into a film mate.
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Quote: "Once can do anything - if one tries hard enough!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
I'm very much looking for your next daily serial next year. You should do one, definitely. Where can I pre-order?
Thanks, Max!
Location: UK
Quote: "Ever sift sand through a screen? ... We Bene Gesserit sift people to find the humans. (Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, Dune) "
Posted: 6119 days ago
I had not thought of a "Max Headroom" ending though, but since Charly is a brilliant Scientist, being more of a supercomputer than a super robot fits better.
I shall be awaiting the next serial, are you taking ideas for them like with your short story experiment?
Location: Darwin, Australia
Quote: "Inconceivable!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
Thank you Maxx!!!
Posted: 6119 days ago
I really enjoyed reading this and being part of the experiment. I also found it exhausting, all those daily mini-cliffhangers for nine months. If you do another serial like this next year, what about trying it as a weekly, say, a chapter a week? We'd have to wait longer between cliffhangers, but each chunk would be more substantial.
Location: Toronto
Posted: 6119 days ago
Location: Texas
Quote: "The key to war is not to die for your country, its to make the other poor dumb bastard die for his."
Posted: 6119 days ago
Thanks for filling my mind with what came out of yours. I always appreciate a good author.
Cheers
Location: Los Angeles, California (school) | Akron, Ohio (home)
Quote: "Though I am not naturally honest, I am so sometimes by chance."
Posted: 6119 days ago
It's funny, even though I posted that comment yesterday asking about if this was an epilogue or third act, I didn't check it until today when I read "The End" at the end of my e-mail inbox today. So much for me being a faithful reader. :/
Anyways, mad props for this book. I really enjoyed it immensely, but I guess I'll have to play around with the rewind feature on my feed so I can understand the book as a whole and ask informed questions about things I missed.
Out of curiosity, when you started "Machine Man," did you know that Charlie would end up as this "solid state" machine by the end of the novel? Do you have any regrets about not pursuing a certain idea you had earlier for the novel? Ooh, sequel idea! Find a spot in the book where you might have had second thoughts about a certain element of the story, and fork off a new chapter in the book. Although that would probably melt your brain or undermine your self-confidence as a writer.
Once again, awesome job with it... best of luck editing and with the movie deal (which reminds me, was the film deal wrapped up because you knew you were finishing the novel relatively quickly, and you could tell the production company the ending?)!
Location: Work, Maryland, USA
Quote: "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And sometimes that cigar is ploughing your mother."
Posted: 6119 days ago
Second, I hope this is essentially a rough for the novel, as it seems like the story's not quite finished. Honestly, we don't *have* to see Charlie recover into some super being who awakens to re-crusade all over Better Future, but I do think we need to see in what direction he and Lola move, or in what direction he moves by himself, if he's even capable.
Third, I'm pretty good at allowing my suspension of disbelief to take over and let me finish a novel, but I honestly never got the whole thing between Charlie and Carl. I didn't get why Carl went berserk after he got his arms. I accepted it, but it never made a ton of sense to me. Also, the fact that Lola figured out that Carl wasn't a bad guy. Perhaps I missed something, but it feels like that's a plot hole that needs concrete.
I apologize for the feedback you haven't yet asked for :-). It was fun.
Location: Cambridge, UK
Quote: "On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog"
Posted: 6119 days ago
I have to admit, you really had me going with the previous 2-pages, I had no idea where it was going, but this last page finished it perfectly.
But what about Page, has she been found?
Location: London, England
Quote: "We're today's scrambled creatures, locked in tomorrow's double feature"
Posted: 6119 days ago
It's been....emotional
Posted: 6119 days ago
Location: new york general sort of vicinity
Quote: ""It's not working" -- Joseph Clark"
Posted: 6119 days ago
Another neat consequence of this experience is that here we all are, having just finished a book _together_ in _real time_ and commenting about it. This is like being in high school and reading a short story in class out loud together and then discussing it. Think how unique that is given that this story will likely be in print (&/or on film) and possibly millions could be talking about it in the future. And we can say, "Yo, we was there when it first got born'd." (sic)
Questions: How much of this was plotted or worked out in your head prior to writing? I believe that you did create it as you went along to some degree, but like a jazz musician, you have structure, some framework to work with. Did you see it ending this way? When did you know you were coming to the end? Also, why did you feel you needed to say yesterday, "one more page?"
IMHO, truly successful, although some issues with plotting and character development; what do you think is lacking most in the story?
Again, ditto Toby O, mad frickn props!! I'll miss Machine Man.
Location: Moe
Quote: "Fredzfrog"
Posted: 6119 days ago
also, re-write? don't do it. just offer to mail anyone who buys it a page a day :p
:o page a day machineman desk callender thingy! marketing! :p
Location: USA
Quote: "It has been my experience that certain men get ahead during the time that others waste. - Henry Ford"
Posted: 6119 days ago
Ok, maybe that was a little weird . . .I just LOVE this story. Like Dave said, turning him into a super-computer is way better. This also has the classic open ending which is so common to stories with a planned sequel. (Hint, hint.)
The only criticism that I can agree with is that you should've developed Charlie's relationship with Carl more than you did; but, other than that, it was awesome.
Don't listen to Mark; the page-a-day program was fantastic. You know we loved it. ;-)
I cannot wait to read your next work. I too would love to read a long novel. Don't get me wrong; I love your short novels! But a long novel would allow us to revel in more of your awesomeness! =D
Thank you, Max!
Location: Morristown, Indiana
Quote: "Why do I blog? Simple, because Max Barry blogs."
Posted: 6119 days ago
Max, it was a great book. I was reading along every day. Reading one page at a time is a really difficult thing for a reader to do. I hated the one sentence pages!
-adam
Location: chattanooga, TN, USA
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Posted: 6119 days ago
While I do agree with most here in feeling that the last three pages made a very interesting wrap-up but I don't think I was ready for it. The last three days reminded me of the last scenes in space odyssey where the guy gets old in the apartment (where did that friggin apartment come from!?!...) but I digress. I guess I'm saying that I still feel a little lost when I think about the story as a whole. It seems that the pages when they were staying with the dog lady drug on forever and then after they left we were in a fast forward mode to the end. I think I was just getting settled in to the new groove of having Charlie back at Better Future. I would have liked to have seen more pages here of him reflecting on his decision to go full Robocop. Also, since this is clearly in the not to distant future... why no mention of the Robocop movie? Is this set in an alternate universe where was no Robocop movie? Maybe Charlie is too embarrassed to admit that he allowed himself to be turned into a Robocop. Robocop... I just wanted to say that one more time. Robocop
Also, although I made a max headroom comment a few weeks ago I never thought about how his consciousness might be transferred to a computer and I guess that's a bit much for me to grasp at this point.
Another comment is that this doesn't feel like a happy ending though I don't guess it is an uhappy ending, either.. it's just an ending.
Location: Sydney, Australia
Quote: "Why are the pretty ones always insane?"
Posted: 6119 days ago
I kinda hate not knowing what happened to Cassandra, need some closure there I think. I hope it was something bad you know... And what's-his-name with the remote control, how he end up?
Liked the image of Lola yelling at people for three years, if you have some long-term yelling that needs to be done she's gotta be your first choice. The chick's had two heart replacements in three years, she's tough and has lots to yell at people about. And her friend the doctor, what happened with her? She disappears after they leave her house, but she was so odd I feel she might benefit from more involvement later maybe? Die in some horrific way or something.
Anyway thanks again, and good luck with the final book. I can't wait to see how it compares with the live version.
Location: St. Louis
Posted: 6119 days ago
Location: Dorchester, MA
Quote: "Never put off till tomorrow what you can put off till the day after tomorrw."
Posted: 6119 days ago
But what DOES friffhanger mean? I feel so dumb.
Location: Morristown, Indiana
Quote: "Why do I blog? Simple, because Max Barry blogs."
Posted: 6119 days ago
-adam
Posted: 6119 days ago
and a friffhanger is a cliffhanger delivered on Friday.
Location: Iowa
Quote: "Never judge a book by its movie."
Posted: 6119 days ago
But seriously, fabulous job! I can't tell you how much I've looked forward to the next chapter every morning. Which is interesting because I'm the type of person that likes to read books in one sitting, but reading one page at a time was really very fun. I did think the time at Lola's friend's house seemed to go on for a while, and I agree with others that more background on Carl and Cassandra would help fill out the details nicely. But in a way, the lack of those details is an essential element of the story-- in the same way that Charlie was stripped down to his essential self, you stripped the story to its most basic raw form...with the conclusion that neither Charlie nor the story needs all those fancy extras. Quite powerful stuff.
Please sir, can we have more?
Location: new york general sort of vicinity
Quote: ""It's not working" -- Joseph Clark"
Posted: 6119 days ago
Location: Takoma Park, MD
Quote: "OK today, let's see what you've got. (Circles warily...)"
Posted: 6119 days ago
Location: Toronto
Posted: 6119 days ago
http://www.maxbarry.com/machineman/page.html?p=63
It was dabbeljuh!
Location: Savoy
Quote: "Pants?"
Posted: 6119 days ago
Thanks Max, another great read! Personally, I don't think we need an epilogue (and it hurts me to say that, because I have really loved reading this and do want to read more), instead I think that (like John #394 up there said), we should see a bit more about how Charlie and Cassandra move forward.
What you have right now is almost a little too easy. This entire time we've seen Charlie eschewing his physical body to become more machine, then here at the end we have him all machine and rebelling, but the last sentence is almost a bit too "Okay, fine, I accept it." Even just another paragraph or two, him receiving the prosthetic, looking at it, contemplating it, using it to hold Lola's hand, just a touch more of him coming to terms with the decision to move forward with his life.
Location: Kansas
Quote: "Freeze!!! This is the Government!!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
Good ending, I loved it. If you *do* rewrite it obviously you could flesh it out (ok bad choice of words) immensely. But I do think it could exist fine like it is. Maybe in the hard back version, you would just have one page per daily page, and adjust the font size accordingly. When you have the really short ones they can just sit on a blank page by themselves in the middle.
That way it still kind of fits the "serial" bill - one day, one page. On the long pages maybe you could go two facing pages if necessary.
I think the story is great like it is, and perhaps you could do some very minor revisions - but if you really turned it into a for real novel I think it would end up being a different beast altogether and then you could actually warrant releasing both formats.
Well whatever you do, write something else soon!
Location: New York, NY, USA
Quote: "We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well Dance."
Posted: 6119 days ago
I agree: What happened to Angelica and Cassandra?
Location: New Hampshire
Posted: 6119 days ago
But I think this was exactly as well done as it should have been, especially for the medium. And I trust that you'll make the right changes to make it good as a novel.
I think, really, that's what I want to say. I trust you as a writer, and you've rewarded that trust. Thank you, Max. You are a fantastic writer.
Posted: 6119 days ago
But my mind re-rendered the end with the same story line, but perhaps more drama. Anti-climatic as it is, it could slowly draw the reader through a building, people talking, into a quiet room with a table in the center of the room. Quiet except for a flash.
Words flashing,
"Where am I."
"Hello?!"
"Lolaaaaa!!!"
But everyone's a critic, eh?
Overall, nice work, Max.
*Applause*
Location: Burnsville, MN
Quote: "I recommend the lobster ravioli. "
Posted: 6119 days ago
I mean with each "page" numbered as they are online & with any typos & so on?
Or should I just print it all out for myself & design my own cover & bind it together with some gorilla glue & fishing line?
Or, any other suggestions for how I can have a hard copy of this story, without doing anything too weird, and still maintaining my dignity? Oops! Too late.
Oh well.
Location: Spokane, Washington
Quote: "Corgis are like potato chips"
Posted: 6119 days ago
It's the kind of ending that's like a beginning for them. I love it.
Now all they have to do is get Charlie some fonts, and teach him about lower case letters. =)
Also, I could care less what happened to Cassandra et. al. They aren't important to the ending, only Charlie and Lola are.
I'm not sure Carl should be fleshed out (haha) more, the reader might start feeling too much emotional attachment and then be too conflicted when Charlie kills him.
Thank you again Max, my CC will be burning a hole in my pocket until you start the next one, but I'll be you need a break after this. It must feel great to be done. This was a triumph.
Location: Ohio, USA
Quote: "There is a guy in Lab Control who once killed a woman with his car, and he gets invited to parties. I dont understand that."
Posted: 6119 days ago
I was expecting something completely different but this way better than what I was guessing.
Sad its over but worth the $6 or whatever it was a thousand times over.
Thank you Max. Maybe this serial thing will take off a bit more. Works for soap operas right?
In short, You blew my mind. Thank you and do another! :D
Location: Denver
Quote: "You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose."
Posted: 6119 days ago
Question: There were only a few pages that were just one sentence (even one that was only a word), was this intentional? By that I mean to ask did you have the rest planned out, but want to add suspense due to the fact that this was a serial installment? Or were we witnessing some writers block in real time? Perhaps both?
In regards to this question, with the few one sentence pages near the end, it made me feel like maybe you weren't sure where to go with it, or maybe just got tired of the project, and decided to slap on the ending that you had been thinking about for a while.
Again, it was a great ride. Thanks Max!
Location: Spokane, Washington
Quote: "Corgis are like potato chips"
Posted: 6119 days ago
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
I'll go through 'em now. I won't comment on suggestions to improve the story yet because I need to write a whole blog about that. But other questions answered below...
I'm blown away by how well this went. You're so nice to me. Thank you thank you...
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
> You mentioned rewriting into a novel - do you
> think much will change? More detail, less, fixing
> anything you agree with in the feedback?
> Major/minor?
During the serial, whenever I thought I should have done something differently, I usually addressed it from that point forward. I wanted to write the best serial I could (without rewriting), not leave problems to be fixed for the novel. So right this second, I can't think of anything in particular I would definitely change.
Having said that, I am absolutely sure I will see a million things on read-through that shriek to be fixed, many of which will probably be mentioned by readers. Like what happened to D. Peters? He didn't go anywhere.
Short answer: I'm sure I'll change a lot, but I don't know what yet.
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
> On page 10, Cassandra brags about why she's so
> great as chief counsel: Its because Im a
> machine." At the time, I thought it hinted that
> she literally was a machine (and maybe others at
> Better Future too, like Lola -- until we learned
> that it was just her artificial heart that set
> off the metal detector). It took me a long time to
> accept that this theory was wrong. Was that an
> intentional red herring on your part, or at least
> a direction you were considering at that early
> stage? Or was I just being thematically overzealous?
Heh, that's a good tag line. "Mark: Thematically overzealous." Try to work that in to your day-to-day-life.
I never thought Cassandra was part-artificial: that was just a line. Obviously it had special resonance given the subject matter, but I didn't ever really think it would make a good reveal. (I did think a lot about having her acquire a bioaugmentation late in the story, though.)
There are probably a lot of "red herrings" like that because I tossed a lot of possibilities out there to keep open potential story avenues. For example, I gave Lola a suspicious visit to the metal detector before I'd decided that she should have an artificial heart. (And I gave her the heart before I figured out WHY she had it. Lola's backstory on pages 52+ I'm pretty proud of, because I backed myself into a corner -- WHY THE HELL DID SHE HAVE A METAL HEART -- and managed to write my way out of it.)
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
> I think your next project should be a four part
> book, sci fi opera style, you know 600 pages each.
> Drop like ten pages a day. Can writers write ten
> pages a day?
I can write ten awful pages a day. I don't think I can write ten good ones.
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
> Out of curiosity, when you started "Machine Man,"
> did you know that Charlie would end up as this
> "solid state" machine by the end of the novel?
No. I guess it was always a logical possibility -- he sheds body parts until there's nothing left -- but I didn't plan this at all. I tried to avoid thinking about the ending because when I write with an ending in mind, I get predictable. Wherever possible I just wrote whatever seemed most interesting at the time, without trying to plot out where it led.
> Do you have any regrets about not pursuing a
> certain idea you had earlier for the novel?
Maybe 20 pages ago I began to regret not reducing Charlie to a completely artificial state. But then I just used it for the ending.
> was the film deal wrapped up because you knew you
> were finishing the novel relatively quickly, and
> you could tell the production company the ending?)!
No, they kept pestering me about what the ending would be, and I kept saying, "Well, it might be this, or maybe this." We all agreed the story was moving toward a conclusion, but I couldn't tell them what it would be.
I better check in and see what they thought!
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
> I didn't get why Carl went berserk after he got
> his arms.
I don't think Carl really did go berserk. I think Better Future exaggerated his behavior to get Charlie on-side. He was pretty rational, rescuing Lola and using that Fiber Shield thingy.
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
> But what about Page, has she been found?
I am definitely going to leave that lost Page up in some form.
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
> How much of this was plotted or worked out in
> your head prior to writing?
Pretty much nothing beyond, "Guy likes to improve his body by replacing bits."
> Also, why did you feel you needed to say
> yesterday, "one more page?"
I almost dropped "EPILOGUE" at the top of page 182, which in retrospect I probably should have done. At the time I thought it would feel too abrupt, because you have no idea how much of the story is left, then you'd suddenly realize it's practically over. But now I think that would have been preferable to discovering the story is ACTUALLY over all of a sudden.
> what do you think is lacking most in the story?
I won't really know until I re-read it, but at a guess: I threw in an awful lot of plot threads, including some that never went anywhere. I'd think a rewrite would smooth a lot of that out, so the book has a deeper, narrower focus.
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
> why no mention of the Robocop movie?
I almost referenced Iron Man, because that cropped in the comments a bit. I was tempted to have Charlie say, "This isn't Iron Man! Iron Man puts on a suit! I AM my suit!"
But with this, and even more so with RoboCop... I don't think Charlie had much in common with that kind of character, at least until quite late. He didn't want to fight anybody. I don't think it would have struck him as very relevant to what he was doing.
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
> And her friend the doctor, what happened with her?
I'm kind of a minimalist on the "what happened to <minor character>" endings: I'd prefer to drop too little info to too much. You might have picked that up from the Better Future references. (And how Jennifer Government's daughter never got her puppy.) So I don't know exactly what happened to D. Peters, Jason, and Angelica. I hope their futures aren't too difficult to imagine, though.
But Cautery's totally in prison.
Location: Bloomington
Quote: "Does the sky look orange to you as well?"
Posted: 6119 days ago
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
> When is the release date for the movie adaptation
> in the US?
Probably sometime after they have dealt with the pesky business of writing screenplays and getting people to agree to act in it!
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
> I agree with others that more background on Carl
> and Cassandra would help fill out the details
> nicely. But in a way, the lack of those details is
> an essential element of the story-- in the same
> way that Charlie was stripped down to his
> essential self, you stripped the story to its most
> basic raw form...with the conclusion that neither
> Charlie nor the story needs all those fancy
> extras. Quite powerful stuff.
Thanks a lot Lisa! I'm really pleased to hear that.
I can totally believe that a lot of the characterization can be better, but I did feel the strength of the serial format was its only-forward, never-mind-the-bollocks nature.
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
> There were only a few pages that were just one
> sentence (even one that was only a word), was this
> intentional? By that I mean to ask did you have
> the rest planned out, but want to add suspense due
> to the fact that this was a serial installment? Or
> were we witnessing some writers block in real
> time?
I did love being able to control the pacing with shorter and longer pages: to say, "Okay, reader, you're going to sit and think about this for a day." Because in a novel, of course, you are beyond my control. I can't stop you turning the page.
I never did a short page because I couldn't think of a long one. It's almost the other way around: it's easier for me to blather on for 600 words than create a tight, expressive scene that does everything it needs to in 200.
Location: 127.0.0.1
Quote: "That's not change! That's more of the same!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
Also, am i the only one that's going to re-start the feed tomorrow?
Posted: 6119 days ago
Location: UK
Posted: 6119 days ago
I just want to say that I think this ending is fantastic. Sure, there could be more, but I know enough to be satisfied with the story, but little enough wonder about the future.... Really I just love it!
One thing I am wondering: how did writing this serial compare to writing a regular book with respect to time/money/other intangible cost/benefit?
Once again, thanks!
Location: Heist, Belgium
Quote: "he reads things"
Posted: 6119 days ago
Thanks for the amazing story, the unique experience, all the good reads every day, all the frustrating cliffhangers. I love you, but you better be creating another masterpiece in the near future, or else!
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
Neil wrote:
> The "lost Page" comments are leaving me lost. Which bit have I missed?
Readers discovered that if you use the arrows (or modify the URL) to a page I haven't written, you can leave a comment there. And the comment will be displayed on EVERY non-existent page. It's kind of cool how this page has marched forward, always staying one step ahead of the feed. And there has been some joking discussion that the "Page Not Ready!" title refers to a mysterious character named Page in the story.
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
> how did writing this serial compare to writing a regular
> book with respect to time/money/other intangible cost/benefit?
It took a little longer than I would usually spend on a first draft; I write more words per day on a novel, when I'm not trying to keep everything as short as possible.
In the early chapters of the serial I produced each page pretty quickly, but I slowed down once I had to start figuring out how to pull plot strands together.
Financially, I guess I have to wait and see how well the book does, and whether they make the movie! The feed itself has 600 paid-up subscribers, which earned me US$4,000: very much appreciated but not enough to support the project by itself.
Other intangible benefit: I really feel like the experience has been invaluable in reconnecting me with readers and just getting some material out there. I am definitely looking at doing this or something like it again soon.
Location: Calgary AB Canada
Quote: "Where's Lola? WHERE'S LOLA?!?!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
I will miss this dearly :(
<3
Great job Max!
Location: UK
Posted: 6119 days ago
kudos Max, it's a great story! I wonder how many people who have read it will go out and buy the novel... I suspect more than a few.
Incidentally, roughly how many people did you have subscribing?
Well done, I'm gonna miss it!
Location: new york general sort of vicinity
Quote: ""It's not working" -- Joseph Clark"
Posted: 6119 days ago
Thanks for thanking us Max. And thanks for 'coming out from behind the curtain' to talk with the audience. It really feels like an actor coming out for Q&A after the show. I've been refreshing this page throughout the day and enjoying the dialogue. Might be good for a few more days, but it ain't no "Machine Man."
I forget when you started to write your own comments into ours, but I think it took a while. Did you ever feel like you were getting into an uncomfortable spot talking to readers as you were writing? Did you censor yourself or set limits on what you would say?
I agree with Lisa about the scenes with the Lola's girlfriend, her apartment, Charlie without legs, just didn't fly. I'm wondering what you were trying to express with that scene?
This feels private, but has the media picked up on the fact you finished the story online? We need a wrap party!
Posted: 6119 days ago
C'mon, you can't just dangle that nugget out there and leave it hanging.
I loved the experience of getting a page a day, of commenting and discussing and everything. It's going to be weird not having this community anymore.
I hope Jason's gotten a bit more self-confidence, and worked his way up to management in Better Future. His mission has been to personally dismantle any clamps or clamp-related devices.
Angelica's probably gotten out of the business entirely, and has started a puppy fashion line.
Or maybe she's moved on to puppy prosthetics?
Pupsthetics! Yes!!!
And like I said earlier, Dick Peters was burnt for warmth.
Location: Minneapolis
Posted: 6119 days ago
A few comments:
1) It's gonna be weird tomorrow to not start my day with this.
2) Not better-type weird. Sad-type weird. I'm gonna miss it.
3) I really like your action scenes. It struck me first in Jennifer Government, and I was reminded of it several times in the serial, most notably when charlie kicked a car (massively cool). I'm torn between saying "need way more of those!" and the feeling that they may lose some punch if they are everywhere. I guess I'm saying that a few more morsels of creamy action-goodness would be awesome.
4) I would like to see the love interest bit between Lola and Charlie drawn out more, and become more cohesive.
5) Did I mention I'm really going to miss these pages?
Great work!
Location: the Stygian Empire
Quote: "Flesh is a design flaw."
Posted: 6119 days ago
You'll have to write that into Machine Man II: The Resurrection of the Revenge of the Evolution
(In case you couldn't tell those were clichéd sequel subtitles.)
Location: Alberta, Canada
Quote: "I don't wanna ride the elevator."
Posted: 6119 days ago
Dear Max,
I enjoyed your story, it was an interesting read and not just due to the format. In some ways not entirely what I expected, format wise, in others really not what I expected.
The invention of the term "Friffhanger" and the conversations surrounding that was interesting. The discussion about page, was also cool. I wish you had interacted more but then you would probably not have enough time to spend for yourself and your family.
The story itself was bizarre. The way it moved around, constantly becoming different and moving in ways I didnt contemplate. I hope you will consider sharing your experiences, with your collection of riffraff (readers). I am curious how it deveoped, how your ideas formed and how close to your original idea it came out, etc. etc. I did enjoy it.
In closing I must mention I would love to offer assistance where possible in editting or wherever needed, as are alot of your riffraff I am sure.
Take care of yourself gingerman. :)
Ben
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
coolpillows wrote:
> I forget when you started to write your own
> comments into ours, but I think it took a while.
> Did you ever feel like you were getting into an
> uncomfortable spot talking to readers as you were
> writing? Did you censor yourself or set limits on
> what you would say?
I think I've commented pretty steadily throughout, although there have been times, particularly when I've felt the story was getting shaky, that I stayed away for a while to focus on what worked inside my head. It's kind of an insane thing, to let people watch while you're writing, and occasionally I felt the need to protect myself, and the story, to keep it personal and not a performance. I also thought that if I started discussing details like What Would/Should Happen Next, I would surely lose my mind, so while I read comments like that with interest, I didn't answer them. And some I couldn't: plenty of times I thought, "Ooh, well spotted," when a reader picked up what was coming, but of course I couldn't confirm or deny it without creating a spoiler.
> the scenes with the Lola's girlfriend, her apartment,
> Charlie without legs, just didn't fly. I'm wondering
> what you were trying to express with that scene?
You have one in mind in particular? Or the whole stretch at Angelica's? The main idea there was to get out of Better Future for a while, which was beginning to feel a little claustrophobic. I wasn't sure what I would accomplish by shifting scenery, but throughout this I tried to run with ideas and see what happened rather than play it safe. I actually like many of the pages at Angelica's a lot, even though there's less tension and plot (maybe that's why!).
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
> "Don't do that thing".
> C'mon, you can't just dangle that nugget out there and leave it hanging.
"That thing" was Cautery crying! The chemical imbalance that made her snuffle when she got mad.
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
They kissed because triggering the EMP prevented Better Future from hauling Charlie away before the cops & paramedics arrived.
Location: Brisbane
Quote: "Now, I don't know Max, I've never met Max, or know anything about him, but I have it on good authority, that he is, in fact, a werewolf."
Posted: 6119 days ago
I'll prolly have to re-read it to offer any critical analysis deeper then "That was totes awesome, brah.", but it was totally awesome.
Brah'.
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posted: 6119 days ago
Location: Adelaide
Posted: 6119 days ago
Was it an intentional reflection of Dostoyevski's Crime & Punishment?
I see a lot of Raskolnikov in Charlie, and Lola does become his salvation, much as Sonya did to Raskolnikov
Location: USA
Quote: "It has been my experience that certain men get ahead during the time that others waste. - Henry Ford"
Posted: 6119 days ago
Max,
It was my favorite book. ;-)
Location: NJ
Quote: "And yet. "
Posted: 6119 days ago
While the ending felt sudden, the bit where you suddenly learn it's been three years does work. But at the same time, I don't really feel satisfied. I think for me, I'd have rather seen Charlie somehow come to the realization that he needed love, and not the parts. Having it end the other way -- that he's now only parts -- for me, it's entirely the wrong direction.
I don't know if that makes sense. My opinion, I mean.
Location: chattanooga, TN, USA
Quote: """
Posted: 6119 days ago
Even after reading through all the comments, I'm missing the denouement. before the kiss, Lola was trying to talk charlie out of his parts, that he didn't need them and was losing his mind. Now he 'is' his parts entirely, and Lola is supportive? What did we learn? Was Charlie right or wrong to seek self-improvement through part replacement? Has he arrived at the fulfillment he hoped to achieve? I got from the earlier pages that though was a maladjusted introverted unsociable fellow, deep down he really wished he was sociable and that people liked him. Did he fall victim to his efforts to cure his social malities himself the best way he knew how instead of facing his issues and figuring out why he didn't fit in? The sadness I feel at the end is that with all his efforts to improve himself and to make himself more approvable to Lola, he turned himself into a thing that is most distant from human interaction. Perhaps there could be some kind of reflection on this before slumping his digital shoulders and looking to the bright side that Lola is there and she still cares for his consciousness. I think it is near the surface with the "show me the arm" line but I would like to see it more pronounced.
Again, great job. I love your stuff, but then I'm just a hillbilly from east tennessee and the hills of Appalachia.
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
Chris Hale wrote:
> Was it an intentional reflection of Dostoyevski's Crime & Punishment?
No! I have never quite gotten around to reading that one.
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "I'm my number one fan!"
Posted: 6119 days ago
tim wrote:
> before the kiss, Lola was trying to talk charlie
> out of his parts, that he didn't need them and
> was losing his mind. Now he 'is' his parts
> entirely, and Lola is supportive? What did we
> learn? Was Charlie right or wrong to seek
> self-improvement through part replacement?
I don't think Lola was anti-parts (or anti-improvement) so much as she was anti-Charlie's-personality-disappearing. She was always (very) interested in Charlie's drive to improve himself; she just hated how the parts took over.
So, in my opinion, Lola is satisifed at the end because she has pure Charlie: a Charlie personality with no form. And Charlie is happy (or at least interested) because he can build his own form, or at least start tinkering in that direction.
> Has he arrived at the fulfillment he hoped to
> achieve? I got from the earlier pages that though
> was a maladjusted introverted unsociable fellow,
> deep down he really wished he was sociable and
> that people liked him. Did he fall victim to his
> efforts to cure his social malities himself the
> best way he knew how instead of facing his issues
> and figuring out why he didn't fit in? The
> sadness I feel at the end is that with all his
> efforts to improve himself and to make himself
> more approvable to Lola, he turned himself into a
> thing that is most distant from human interaction.
I do think Charlie wished he was more sociable, but I don't think it really drove him; fundamentally, I think Charlie cared more about building things than whether people liked him. I also don't think he was ever realistically going to be a sociable person, not without changing key parts of his personality (and thus becoming somebody else).
So while I agree he ends the story in a place that is incredibly isolated (from everyone but Lola, at least), I don't think that's going to bother him as much as it would anyone else. In fact, that's what I hope you get out of the ending: that this awful nightmarish situation is actually kind of perfect for Charlie.
Posted: 6118 days ago
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote: "Don't read this. It's not relevant to anything. Go away."
Posted: 6118 days ago
>...pure Charlie: a Charlie personality with no form...
I was about to write something about his plastic-fantastic neurons going spasmatic and stuffing up his personality even further, but I just realised that he's steady state now. That leap is difficult to overcome, in my mind, and even has me asking myself about the true nature of human consciousness... Deep stuff.
Thank you, Max. Thank you. I kinda cried a little, both in sadness due to there being no more pages, and in happiness, due to the whole Charlie-is-still-alive thing.
Also, sorry about the thing with the names.
Posted: 6118 days ago
1. I agree with the other readers who said some more development of Carl would be nice. I know he tried to save Lola and her heart went off when she thought she hit him with the car so there was obviously something between them. However, it was a little difficult to for me to see how he went from being a random security guard at the beginning to risking his lie for Lola. I thought we'd learn more about their interpersonal relationship around the fighting scene (kind of like that page about Lola's background) but then he died...
2. You said Cassandra Cautery goes to prison, which is definitely what she deserves! :) I just wanted to say that something I very much enjoyed about Jennifer Government was that ending with John Nike, where he gets exactly what was coming to him and where the Pepsi kid puts him in his place right at the end of the epilogue. It was a very satisfying feeling in that novel so maybe including a little paragraph to slightly flesh-out Cassandra Cautery's fate would be nice.
And, speaking of Jennifer Government and future projects, any chance of a sequel? Probably not but it was worth a shot :). I loved that book/universe.
Once again, awesome novel!
Location: Sydney
Posted: 6118 days ago
Were we perhaps getting a little raunchy at the end there? :P
>"She stroked my camera."
Location: chattanooga, TN, USA
Quote: """
Posted: 6118 days ago
> I also don't think he was ever realistically going to be a sociable person, not without changing key parts of his personality (and thus becoming somebody else).
> In fact, that's what I hope you get out of the ending: that this awful nightmarish situation is actually kind of perfect for Charlie.
Max,
thank you for the clarification and I get what you are saying in that Charlie's ending suited him. It may be that I am still more of an amateurish reader that tries to hard to identify with the main character. If I focus on the story-Charlie and completely disect the ME-Charlie (since I have invested a great deal of ME into reading this story)I completely agree. I think that with most books (including yours) the main character is more identifiable and the ending works out to be something that I would personally find more or less agreeable.
Thank you again... and so much for more responding to my comments, which has made this journey all the more worthwhile. If I had sent you an email after reading... say.. syrup or JG, it would have surely gotten lost in the masses (or you would have only sent positive energy my way, which I no doubt have appreciated). I feel that I most certainly got my money's worth many times over.
Posted: 6118 days ago
The entire time, his drive was to replace biology, without any real hesitation, with lots of risk ( as in not caring if someone was on hand to save him from limb removals ).
I would have thought, he would have 'woke up'|'turned on' and got a rush once he realized his total immersion into technology. His behavior was clearly obsessed, one could argue which was truly the love of his life, Lola or self actualizing titanium.
Unless..., they replaced parts of his brain too, and that...erm, made him more human?
Location: USA
Quote: "It has been my experience that certain men get ahead during the time that others waste. - Henry Ford"
Posted: 6118 days ago
Location: the Stygian Empire
Quote: "Flesh is a design flaw."
Posted: 6118 days ago
Hopefully they'll have kept the plans for his parts so he can integrate them into his sensor array with a bit of help from Lola.
Posted: 6113 days ago
"I've got nothing to say
I've got nothing to do
All of my neurons are functioning smoothly
yet still I'm a cyborg just like you
I'm one big myoma that thinks
My planet supports only me
I've go this one big problem
Will I live forever?
I've got just a short time to see"
Location: Canberra, Australia
Posted: 6113 days ago
At the end where Lola gives Charlie an arm is this a partial reference to the beginning of the story where Lola was trying to fit Charlie with a leg and he refused?
Location: Texas, USA
Quote: ""A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. " --Mark Twain"
Posted: 6110 days ago
Thank you, Max!
Location: New York
Quote: "Everbody has a plan until they get punched in the face."
Posted: 6095 days ago
Location: USA
Quote: "O Lord, Protect us from those to whom you speak directly"
Posted: 6051 days ago
or maybe its just that i've been sitting here reading for the past six hours.
this.
was.
phenomenal.
Quote: "No, not the bald Australian. A different one."
Posted: 6048 days ago
Could we say that they each had... a Better Future?
Location: UK
Posted: 6043 days ago
Was Charlie's personality throughout the story supposed to represent Asperger's syndrome or autism? Did you use those ideas in any way to build his character?
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posted: 5979 days ago
Location: Melbourne
Quote: "I have found that reading Machine Man has been a great antidote to depression"
Posted: 5966 days ago
Location: Oregon
Quote: "I love cake and champage!"
Posted: 5923 days ago
Location: newcastle nsw
Posted: 5868 days ago
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